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	<title>Comments on: What Scholars Should Do</title>
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	<description>Old English: Sanctuary (formed from the words "holy" and "work" thus what goes on in a sanctuary.) This is my sanctuary for writing on religion, academics, and the other things that ground my life.</description>
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		<title>By: Derek the Ænglican</title>
		<link>http://haligweorc.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/what-scholars-should-do/#comment-4910</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek the Ænglican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someday, Jonathan...

Anastasia, the way Dr. Goodacre talks about it makes sense to me--the blog is for talking out nascent research ideas; the gateway is for directing people to credible resources. I'd thing a healthy blog-wiki combo might function the same way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someday, Jonathan&#8230;</p>
<p>Anastasia, the way Dr. Goodacre talks about it makes sense to me&#8211;the blog is for talking out nascent research ideas; the gateway is for directing people to credible resources. I&#8217;d thing a healthy blog-wiki combo might function the same way.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Jarrett</title>
		<link>http://haligweorc.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/what-scholars-should-do/#comment-4909</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Jarrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The place where I work recently found it was getting hits on its website from a blog that turned out to be where students were required to submit their reports on one particular course on one particular Western US university. That was a course on information science, so only by the broadest stretch a humanity, but it was still a grasp of the sphere I've yet to see in the UK in `proper academia'. I blog in hope.

By the way, when I said `hurt or hindered' above, I meant `helped or hindered'; I'm pretty sure no high-level academics are aware of my blog to be affected one way or the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The place where I work recently found it was getting hits on its website from a blog that turned out to be where students were required to submit their reports on one particular course on one particular Western US university. That was a course on information science, so only by the broadest stretch a humanity, but it was still a grasp of the sphere I&#8217;ve yet to see in the UK in `proper academia&#8217;. I blog in hope.</p>
<p>By the way, when I said `hurt or hindered&#8217; above, I meant `helped or hindered&#8217;; I&#8217;m pretty sure no high-level academics are aware of my blog to be affected one way or the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Anastasia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anastasia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't much care for scholarly gravitas.

If all we're looking for is a google accessible source of general information, you've got a much better argument for wikis than for blogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t much care for scholarly gravitas.</p>
<p>If all we&#8217;re looking for is a google accessible source of general information, you&#8217;ve got a much better argument for wikis than for blogs.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle of Heavenfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle of Heavenfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm a little surprised that universities haven't embraced blogs as ways for students to see their professors and instructors as 'real people' with real varied interests. Of course, as Jonathan points out is a way for professors to explain thier research in an easily understandable way. I bet Dr. Nokes students think he is quite cool. 

My university did set up 4-6 blogs on student life by students as a recruiting tool for future students. I bet schools with biggers sports programs also have offical blogs (formerly known as columnists) on their sports program. For that matter, how long before this is another duty for coaches. So why should actual academic pursuits not be part of the trend?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a little surprised that universities haven&#8217;t embraced blogs as ways for students to see their professors and instructors as &#8216;real people&#8217; with real varied interests. Of course, as Jonathan points out is a way for professors to explain thier research in an easily understandable way. I bet Dr. Nokes students think he is quite cool. </p>
<p>My university did set up 4-6 blogs on student life by students as a recruiting tool for future students. I bet schools with biggers sports programs also have offical blogs (formerly known as columnists) on their sports program. For that matter, how long before this is another duty for coaches. So why should actual academic pursuits not be part of the trend?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Jarrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Jarrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly I wanted to say that I agree entirely with Derek's initial idea, about how academics should be paying back. I've always felt that this is what we have to do to excuse the fact that someone, often the taxpayer, is funding us to effectively do what we want, at least some of the time. Also, it does the &lt;del&gt;ego&lt;/del&gt;heart good to be able to interest someone in what you study, and that's much more likely if you can communicate it in digestible chunks.

As for blogging, I too have heard the warnings. I took up the blogosphere mainly because I wasn't meeting with any success in conventional fields at the time and I was becoming aware of a growing tendency not just in the professional world at large, but in `auxiliary' parts of the humanities, especially in heritage and conservation, to take blogs as serious evidence of intent to outreach. I was hoping vaguely to demonstrate to enquirers that I was a viable academic despite lack of conventional evidence as yet: I put up my first webpages at the same time for the same reason. Blogs seem to have become professionally acceptable outside academia, though, and I guess I'm hoping, as Derek and Michelle also suggest, that they will break their way inside. By that token, I keep mine very academic, and leave my life out of it. So far I've had no reason to suppose that it's hurt me or hindered me; academics at the hiring level in the UK don't really use the Internet that way.

My students, on the other hand, have found me very quickly and been highly impressed that I've even heard of Web 2.0... Clearly I look older than I feel :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly I wanted to say that I agree entirely with Derek&#8217;s initial idea, about how academics should be paying back. I&#8217;ve always felt that this is what we have to do to excuse the fact that someone, often the taxpayer, is funding us to effectively do what we want, at least some of the time. Also, it does the <del>ego</del>heart good to be able to interest someone in what you study, and that&#8217;s much more likely if you can communicate it in digestible chunks.</p>
<p>As for blogging, I too have heard the warnings. I took up the blogosphere mainly because I wasn&#8217;t meeting with any success in conventional fields at the time and I was becoming aware of a growing tendency not just in the professional world at large, but in `auxiliary&#8217; parts of the humanities, especially in heritage and conservation, to take blogs as serious evidence of intent to outreach. I was hoping vaguely to demonstrate to enquirers that I was a viable academic despite lack of conventional evidence as yet: I put up my first webpages at the same time for the same reason. Blogs seem to have become professionally acceptable outside academia, though, and I guess I&#8217;m hoping, as Derek and Michelle also suggest, that they will break their way inside. By that token, I keep mine very academic, and leave my life out of it. So far I&#8217;ve had no reason to suppose that it&#8217;s hurt me or hindered me; academics at the hiring level in the UK don&#8217;t really use the Internet that way.</p>
<p>My students, on the other hand, have found me very quickly and been highly impressed that I&#8217;ve even heard of Web 2.0&#8230; Clearly I look older than I feel <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Michelle of Heavenfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle of Heavenfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 04:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, some of the same things were said about electronic journals 10 years ago when we started the Heroic Age. We are still not there but progress is being made. Someone has to be a trailblazer. From what I recall of the early days of the Heroic Age, it tended to be a combination of tenured professors and grad students who were the most  involved. Those grad students who published on the HA in the early days did find jobs. 

I would think that blogging would fit in with the study of popular medievalism. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, some of the same things were said about electronic journals 10 years ago when we started the Heroic Age. We are still not there but progress is being made. Someone has to be a trailblazer. From what I recall of the early days of the Heroic Age, it tended to be a combination of tenured professors and grad students who were the most  involved. Those grad students who published on the HA in the early days did find jobs. </p>
<p>I would think that blogging would fit in with the study of popular medievalism. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Derek the Ænglican</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek the Ænglican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dr. Nokes,

I seen the articles. And I'm on the job market. Blogging and wiki-work and collaborative sites don't count for hiring or tenure. Yet.

Peer-reviewed materials are essential for scholarship to move forward, but but there's no reason why we can expand where that happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dr. Nokes,</p>
<p>I seen the articles. And I&#8217;m on the job market. Blogging and wiki-work and collaborative sites don&#8217;t count for hiring or tenure. Yet.</p>
<p>Peer-reviewed materials are essential for scholarship to move forward, but but there&#8217;s no reason why we can expand where that happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Scott Nokes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Scott Nokes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your kind words, Derek. In defense of non-blogging academics (and, more broadly, academics who do nothing to make their research accessible, such as fixing wiki articles), there are dangers for blogging scholars, but little in the way of benefits.

Consider this -- if someone goes on the academic job market, or up for tenure or promotion at their current job, how much will blogging help them? Not at all, though that rather-boring-yet-well-placed-article-that-no-one-will-ever-read WILL help them. On the other hand, anecdotal evidence suggests that blogging can hurt a job search, by offering the impression that the academic has a frivolous approach to his material, or that he's wasting time better spent doing other kinds of scholarship, etc.

If you look through the archives of the Chronicle of Higher Ed, you'll find many articles about the dangers of blogging (ANY kind of blogging, even about your hobbies) for the academic, but no articles I can think of about the benefits of blogging.

The upshot is this: The system and culture in place for evaluating academic performace treats blogging as at best irrelevant, and at worst a sign of lack of scholarly gravitas. I do my own work DESPITE these pressures, but I'm not sure I would have done so if I didn't have a few books and articles already on my CV.

I'm not defending the academic culture that has created this atmosphere, but individual academics sometimes are not in a position to take such risks. After all, when's the last time the US News college rankings cited a school's blogging or wiki-editing professors as a reason for high rank?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your kind words, Derek. In defense of non-blogging academics (and, more broadly, academics who do nothing to make their research accessible, such as fixing wiki articles), there are dangers for blogging scholars, but little in the way of benefits.</p>
<p>Consider this &#8212; if someone goes on the academic job market, or up for tenure or promotion at their current job, how much will blogging help them? Not at all, though that rather-boring-yet-well-placed-article-that-no-one-will-ever-read WILL help them. On the other hand, anecdotal evidence suggests that blogging can hurt a job search, by offering the impression that the academic has a frivolous approach to his material, or that he&#8217;s wasting time better spent doing other kinds of scholarship, etc.</p>
<p>If you look through the archives of the Chronicle of Higher Ed, you&#8217;ll find many articles about the dangers of blogging (ANY kind of blogging, even about your hobbies) for the academic, but no articles I can think of about the benefits of blogging.</p>
<p>The upshot is this: The system and culture in place for evaluating academic performace treats blogging as at best irrelevant, and at worst a sign of lack of scholarly gravitas. I do my own work DESPITE these pressures, but I&#8217;m not sure I would have done so if I didn&#8217;t have a few books and articles already on my CV.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not defending the academic culture that has created this atmosphere, but individual academics sometimes are not in a position to take such risks. After all, when&#8217;s the last time the US News college rankings cited a school&#8217;s blogging or wiki-editing professors as a reason for high rank?</p>
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		<title>By: Derek the Ænglican</title>
		<link>http://haligweorc.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/what-scholars-should-do/#comment-4814</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek the Ænglican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 18:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee thanks, hon... ;-)

You'll be doing the same on yours, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee thanks, hon&#8230; <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You&#8217;ll be doing the same on yours, right?</p>
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		<title>By: mother m</title>
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		<dc:creator>mother m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 18:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your post on what scholars should do. I know I would be more likely to read blogs if they wrote academic stuff in an acessible and meaningful way. Are you up to the challenge? While some of your stuff is written that way, a majority of it is not. I would definately read the blog more and actually add real comments if you did that. Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your post on what scholars should do. I know I would be more likely to read blogs if they wrote academic stuff in an acessible and meaningful way. Are you up to the challenge? While some of your stuff is written that way, a majority of it is not. I would definately read the blog more and actually add real comments if you did that. Good luck!</p>
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