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		<title>By: Carnival Reminder &#171; haligweorc</title>
		<link>http://haligweorc.wordpress.com/2007/04/27/lets-have-a-party/#comment-2088</link>
		<dc:creator>Carnival Reminder &#171; haligweorc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 18:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Filed under: Uncategorized &#8212; Derek the Ænglican @ 11:33 am   Don&#8217;t forget, the blog carnival: “Common” Prayer in the 21st Century is coming soon (May 14th). When you have an entry up at your site, comment here with a link or [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Filed under: Uncategorized &#8212; Derek the Ænglican @ 11:33 am   Don&#8217;t forget, the blog carnival: “Common” Prayer in the 21st Century is coming soon (May 14th). When you have an entry up at your site, comment here with a link or [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dissertation Lock-down &#171; haligweorc</title>
		<link>http://haligweorc.wordpress.com/2007/04/27/lets-have-a-party/#comment-2061</link>
		<dc:creator>Dissertation Lock-down &#171; haligweorc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 14:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] grading and I do hope to put out the promised trial liturgy page (&#8230;and my entry for the Common Prayer carnival&#8230;and the carnival itself&#8230;), but then all spare brain cycles will be devoted to the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] grading and I do hope to put out the promised trial liturgy page (&#8230;and my entry for the Common Prayer carnival&#8230;and the carnival itself&#8230;), but then all spare brain cycles will be devoted to the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Derek the Ænglican</title>
		<link>http://haligweorc.wordpress.com/2007/04/27/lets-have-a-party/#comment-2055</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek the Ænglican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And that's the trick, isn't it--figuring out how inculturation should work, whether to choose or make static a liturgical language, and stay faithful to the proclamation of the Gospel in a register comprehensible to those not yet touched by it and those who have fallen away from it while nurturing and nourishing those who have remained within it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that&#8217;s the trick, isn&#8217;t it&#8211;figuring out how inculturation should work, whether to choose or make static a liturgical language, and stay faithful to the proclamation of the Gospel in a register comprehensible to those not yet touched by it and those who have fallen away from it while nurturing and nourishing those who have remained within it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The young fogey</title>
		<link>http://haligweorc.wordpress.com/2007/04/27/lets-have-a-party/#comment-2054</link>
		<dc:creator>The young fogey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I blogged recently the idiom of Coverdale, Cranmer and the King James Bible is our liturgical language so I'd like to see indigenous future English-language rites continue in that.

Inculturation is a difficult matter but not only is there nothing wrong with it but it's desirable in some cases (I'm thinking of Fr Matteo Ricci in China).

As long as the new rites have the same orthodoxy, objectivity and Godwardness as the old ones.

That said, that and the Tridentine Mass and Roman Breviary (the 'base' for all Western liturgies for the past 425 years and before that this was true of older forms of the Roman Rite) are not mutually exclusive. Big swaths of Western Europe, the Americas and the Antipodes should be using the old Roman Rite! It's theirs. (English speakers can use the existing translations into liturgical English like the Knott Missal, American Missal and Anglican Breviary.) And that's still possible, unlike trying to revive Sarum or the Gallican Rite, because it's still in living people's memory.

I know of no massive movement in the Eastern churches to scrap or augment the Byzantine and other traditional rites.

The last priest celebrating the last Mass or reading the last office in a shattering universe may well be reading in Latin or Slavonic... or using a rite we've never heard of because it doesn't exist yet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I blogged recently the idiom of Coverdale, Cranmer and the King James Bible is our liturgical language so I&#8217;d like to see indigenous future English-language rites continue in that.</p>
<p>Inculturation is a difficult matter but not only is there nothing wrong with it but it&#8217;s desirable in some cases (I&#8217;m thinking of Fr Matteo Ricci in China).</p>
<p>As long as the new rites have the same orthodoxy, objectivity and Godwardness as the old ones.</p>
<p>That said, that and the Tridentine Mass and Roman Breviary (the &#8216;base&#8217; for all Western liturgies for the past 425 years and before that this was true of older forms of the Roman Rite) are not mutually exclusive. Big swaths of Western Europe, the Americas and the Antipodes should be using the old Roman Rite! It&#8217;s theirs. (English speakers can use the existing translations into liturgical English like the Knott Missal, American Missal and Anglican Breviary.) And that&#8217;s still possible, unlike trying to revive Sarum or the Gallican Rite, because it&#8217;s still in living people&#8217;s memory.</p>
<p>I know of no massive movement in the Eastern churches to scrap or augment the Byzantine and other traditional rites.</p>
<p>The last priest celebrating the last Mass or reading the last office in a shattering universe may well be reading in Latin or Slavonic&#8230; or using a rite we&#8217;ve never heard of because it doesn&#8217;t exist yet!</p>
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